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Post by Christina on Dec 15, 2001 7:24:06 GMT -5
This style of fiction was mentioned in the Literature forum and I confessed to having written some in the past. So I was wondering, what is your definition of Mary-Sue, as fan writers yourselves.
I've always regarded it as the stuff where the author has included themselves in the story as a (usually main) character.
Others have commented that the character always saves the day and wins the lover of their choice. But I personally don't see that as essential to the genre. Do you?
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Post by Holodoc on Dec 16, 2001 7:26:55 GMT -5
Thought Mary Sues more often have a fling and then die nobly, thus affording the writer vicarious interaction and then removal so as to negotiate with future realshow continuity.
Don't see where they would particularly be the main original character in the fanfic. They can just be there on the bridge giving the OPs info if that's what the author gets off on.
It's just that their presence is known. The degree of how much varies from the modest to the major love interest. Remember: It's the writer getting off on the experience. He/She/It has their own personal threshold apart from the typical observers'
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Post by Christina on Dec 16, 2001 7:39:40 GMT -5
*blushing frantically*
I think you got that exactly right. Have you been hacking into my PC? No, don't answer that, I don't really want to know.
exits rapidly
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Post by Holodoc on Dec 16, 2001 18:55:33 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Ana Ng on Dec 16, 2001 19:02:36 GMT -5
I've read my share of fanfic (various genres) and the "Mary-Sue" stories are too oft maligned, IMO.
I know that in fanfiction, people can get quite venomous if they detect someone writing a Mary-Sue story. I've never understood this, especially since I've read *plenty* of fanfiction that is a LOT more offensive than a simple story where an author writes him or herself into it.
Besides, isn't it supposed to be all in fun? I never understood people who fancy themselve "fan-fiction literary critics". Certainly, I've read some pretty bad fan-fiction, but I've never seen the need to openly bash someone, no matter how much I dislike a story.
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Post by Nolo on Jan 6, 2002 17:17:27 GMT -5
Mary-Sue – a fanfic staple revived
Holodoc on December 18th, 2001, 2:00pm
Christina on December 18th, 2001, 9:57pm
Holodoc on December 18th, 2001, 10:47pm
Christina on December 18th, 2001, 10:53pm
Holodoc on December 19th, 2001, 1:07am
If someone has more on this thread or feel like commenting pleas do so.
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Post by Christina on Jan 8, 2002 14:22:58 GMT -5
* grabs fresh bottle of brandy and dashes back to the bonfire and Chocolate thread*
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by Holodoc on Jan 8, 2002 15:24:31 GMT -5
* grabs fresh bottle of brandy and dashes back to the bonfire and Chocolate thread* WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Oh no. All that brandy... she's hallucinating an excessive C/7 fan following. ***Holodoc loads a hypospray with Inaprovalene and runs off in search for the delirious Christina
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Post by Holodoc on Jan 8, 2002 15:41:03 GMT -5
Which reminds me. Someone in that other BBS a looonnnng time ago posted the URL to the following site. Many of us saw it for the brilliant parody it truly is. Do you know how hard it is to write like that? Anyway, you'll be on the floor: ANALYIAH'S JAKOTA/7 TRU LUV PAGE! is the epitome of bad Mary Sue fan fiction, C/7 fiction, and a true Goddess of Dada (or God for all we know. Whomever it was, they were savvy enough to post many of the stories in alt.startrek.creative. Newsgroups are not commonly frequented by Internet Newbies). I see Analyiah's since posted her picture. Unfortunately, those "other BBS" moderators didn't think it was appropriate to discuss Analyiah's brilliance - or even exchange banter in her unique lingo - and promptly locked the threads up tight. (After all, they were taking the attention away from threads about violating crew members. Talk about selectively enforcing censorship) Bask in the greatness of badness that is Analyiah, and let's hear which were your favorites.
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Post by Christina on Jan 12, 2002 7:13:04 GMT -5
I read the thread about it, but didn't bother to visit the site. Frankly, it sounded appalling. If even Americans were complaining about the spelling and grammar, what would I have thought? I also have a block where C/anything is concerned...(except C/C of course! )
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Post by Holodoc on Jan 12, 2002 7:17:45 GMT -5
Well it depends on one's sense of humor. It's delightful and reading the grammar is the whole point of it. It's not like these are typos; typos are accidental. These are so twisted that they become a new dialect. It's uproarious.
And they're the epitome of Mary Sue satire.
One can easily forgive the C/7 content because of the nature of these "stories" (does a paragraph constitute a story?). I mean, look at me: I'm HOLODOC. Think I'd tout a C/7 site?
You really should read one of them - aloud. You'll start laughing, and that's a very good thing to do.
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Post by Christina on Jan 12, 2002 7:26:11 GMT -5
Okay, I'll give them a try sometime.
I have a fairly strange sense of humour sometimes...
We'll see.
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Post by Holodoc on Jan 12, 2002 7:38:11 GMT -5
Sometimes?
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Post by Christina on Jan 12, 2002 8:10:08 GMT -5
Okay, I've read the Tuvok one. And laughed.
But Yuk!
I can't take more than one of those at a time!
Whatever happened to 'his hot breath on her neck' ?
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Post by Holodoc on Jan 12, 2002 10:01:34 GMT -5
Whatever happened to 'his hot breath on her neck' ? Eh. It's been done.
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