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Post by Peter_Pevensie on Dec 4, 2001 5:55:55 GMT -5
...I have other talents... *Snickers* Anyway, isn't anyone going to touch my Nietzche comment up there?
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Post by Elric3960 on Dec 12, 2001 10:56:58 GMT -5
...the actors (though I love them all) seemed to be just going through the motions. Very little of it seemed believable to me. I just don't see Uhura agreeing to debase herself to doing a fan dance to distract the opposition... Oddly enough, Nichelle actually insisted on doing the scene herself although a body double was offered, according to her tell-all book. Even Roddenberry got a kick out of it(they had a history together)! George, on the other hand, more or less felt as you do about that scene. I was, admittedly, distracted so don't go by me. ;D
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Post by Sabel on Dec 12, 2001 11:17:49 GMT -5
I have often posted my "rank the movies" list and this is and always will be at the bottom. Far at the bottom.
To begin with, I am not a Shatner fan in the least. I guess they figure after giving Nemoy STIV, they needed to give Shatner one as well. Probably not a bad idea, seems fair enough. But did no one at Paramount watch the daileys on this movie and see how terribly wrong it was going.
I have heard Shatner say that he tried to interject humor into the movie. I will take him at his word. Unluckily, to me the humor seemed mean spirited. I almost felt like he was getting a bit of revenge for the negative comments that Takei, Koenig, Doohan and Nichols had made about him over the years.
Then there is the big question of just how did the Enterprise get to the barrier so fast. To cross The Federation, which is 10,000 light years, you would have to travel 33 years at Warp 9.9. Kirk's Enterprise was only capable of Warp 9.2/ Picard's of 9.6.
At warp 9.2 it takes 61 years to cross the Federation. A little bit of a continuity mistake on the writers/producers and director's part.
Also, this movie was sandwiched in between 2 of my Favorites STIV and STVI
The only good thing I can remember about this movie was that after I saw a 9:00 showing(in an empty theatre) I walked out into the Theatre lobby and they had all this promotional stuff just lying there that no one had bought. The lights were down, the staff was gone and I snagged a STV baseball cap. I can freely admit that now, as the statute of limitations has expired. ;D
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Post by Elric3960 on Dec 13, 2001 9:04:15 GMT -5
^^^I don't know if I should envy you for getting an exclusive viewing and a free souvenir of a painful experience or pity you for being alone and feeling the need to commit petty theft to treasure it. Interesting story, though.
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Post by Sabel on Dec 14, 2001 5:33:34 GMT -5
^^^I don't know if I should envy you for getting an exclusive viewing and a free souvenir of a painful experience or pity you for being alone and feeling the need to commit petty theft to treasure it. Interesting story, though. I said the movie theatre was empty. I meant of everyone except me and my date. A beautiful girl from Darian Conn., who went on to be a huge financial success in Chicago. So, see, I wasn't alone. However, now that I think about her, I believe I need your pity
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Post by Elric3960 on Dec 15, 2001 17:36:52 GMT -5
What you need and what you'll get are two different things, my friend! Envy wins out since you shared that experience in an empty theatre with a babe at your side! The closest I came was sitting on a cramped couch with a pretty girl at her place watching STIV on video, constantly afraid that her folks would catch us "in the act" so nothing happened!!! Regrets? I'm drowning in them, pal!
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Post by Qab on Dec 15, 2001 20:52:42 GMT -5
Anyway, isn't anyone going to touch my Nietzche comment up there? Sorry, Peter. "He's dead, Jim. And we have killed him." Close enough?
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Post by Sabel on Dec 16, 2001 3:06:59 GMT -5
What you need and what you'll get are two different things, my friend! Envy wins out since you shared that experience in an empty theatre with a babe at your side! The closest I came was sitting on a cramped couch with a pretty girl at her place watching STIV on video, constantly afraid that her folks would catch us "in the act" so nothing happened!!! Regrets? I'm drowning in them, pal! Don't drown Elric!! There is still time. Perhaps Nemesis will be really bad and you can go see it late at night, with a beautiful woman, in an empty movie theatre. Now you are older and wiser; think of all the fun that you could have now, that you didn't even know existed all those years ago. However, I do doubt that you will be able to steal a souvenir from the theatre. I haven't seen a theatre set out movie items for sale in years. You could always steal a little souvenir from the beautiful woman though. That is even better(IMO) ;D
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Post by Peter_Pevensie on Dec 16, 2001 11:31:12 GMT -5
Sorry, Peter. "He's dead, Jim. And we have killed him." Close enough? *Looks up from eating nut clusters* Huh? ;D
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Post by Qab on Dec 16, 2001 12:00:29 GMT -5
Just in case anyone's wondering what the heck we're talking about... Nietzsche's Parable of the Madman "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him." Source: Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science (1882, 1887) para. 125; Walter Kaufmann ed. (New York: Vintage, 1974)
"He's dead, Jim" = just a little play on words...
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Post by Elric3960 on Dec 16, 2001 17:20:12 GMT -5
Don't drown Elric!! There is still time. Perhaps Nemesis will be really bad and you can go see it late at night, with a beautiful woman, in an empty movie theatre. Now you are older and wiser; think of all the fun that you could have now, that you didn't even know existed all those years ago. Valid point, my friend. Of course, I could watch it when it first comes out and "not" watch it when I'm in the company of the beatiful woman, ifyanowatimeen! From your post to God's ears, buddy! ;D I was just trying to do the typing equivalent of "poking you in the ribs" in my last post, not to compare broken hearts, Aragorn. Somehow, I have a feeling you knew that already, so ignore this last paragraph if you did. Not all old men are equipped with a complete set of wisdom, as you can find out by reading my back posts on this BBS. Of course if we did, life would be very dull!
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Post by Sabel on Dec 16, 2001 17:26:33 GMT -5
I knew exactly what you were saying. You haven't put up the aluminum foil in your house yet to keep me from being able to read your mind. ;D
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Post by Worf on Jan 12, 2002 20:48:32 GMT -5
Oddly enough, Nichelle actually insisted on doing the scene herself although a body double was offered, according to her tell-all book. Even Roddenberry got a kick out of it(they had a history together)! George, on the other hand, more or less felt as you do about that scene. I was, admittedly, distracted so don't go by me. ;D The first time I saw Star Trek V, somehow I already knew that it was Nichelle just by looking at her legs on the sand only before we see her face. Her legs are not exactly average, so for me it was very obvious and not surprising to see her face.
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Post by Elric3960 on Jan 13, 2002 0:56:09 GMT -5
You actually noticed her feet? I was too busy noticing her "above average" thighs, her "above average" hips and her two "above average........" hands! And I thought I was kinky!
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