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Post by UltimateTrekker on Feb 11, 2002 10:10:11 GMT -5
Here's a question (the 20) 7 - The fee William Shatner charges to sign autographs at Star Trek conventions is allegedly? 1.) 2.) ,000 3.) ,000 Well.... in that case.... What a bad quiz... (but it's better than a fork in your eye!)
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 11, 2002 11:09:27 GMT -5
4) Shatner will only sign fan autographs for charity, never on request.
That's the truth, BTW, not one of my "cute one-liners."
As for the Armin Shimmerman question, read it again, UT. It said which show did he not appear in. He did appear in Buffy and Stargate. The 89 still stands. Sorry.
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Post by Christina on Feb 12, 2002 15:33:28 GMT -5
^^^Yes and no. While we were excited by the Enterprise crew fighting the Klingons and Romulans, you lot were being entertained by a certain time-traveller in his interesting Time Capsule fighting those Big Saltshakers! Different shows but similar motivations and both were entertaining. We got Dr Who AND Star Trek on the BBC together! Admittedly we were a couple of years behind you, but then you didn't get Who until the late 70's (I think - Tom Baker era). Where did this come from after my comment about school grades?
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 13, 2002 1:50:41 GMT -5
Perhaps I misunderstood what you said here: ...But then I guess you Americans do things a bit differently than we did over here in my schooldays. I presumed that you were referring to our TV viewing habits as school children, I didn't think you meant that our grading standards were different. My mistake. Our public school system, not to be confused with your private school system which you call "public" I believe, tended to be contradictory when I was in attendance. 90-100% was expected from the students by the teachers but if you scored more than 80% you were a source of ridicule in the classroom among your "peers" and a target in the schoolyard as far as bullies were concerned. Even when you grabbed the gold, it was iron pyrite( fool's gold...I aced geology in school). As far as Who is concerned, I first saw the Jon Pertwee eps in 1976. I'll IM you the details so I won't drift off-topic too much!
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Post by UltimateTrekker on Feb 13, 2002 9:48:07 GMT -5
4) Shatner will only sign fan autographs for charity, never on request. That's the truth, BTW, not one of my "cute one-liners." As for the Armin Shimmerman question, read it again, UT. It said which show did he not appear in. He did appear in Buffy and Stargate. The 89 still stands. Sorry. DOH! As for the Shatner, yes, I know, but those 3 answer aren't answers! 1 is blank (not correct) and 2 are the exact same. But yes, he mentioned (and Nimoy agreed) in Mind Meld that they don't sign anymore because they know they'll just get sold on Ebay so why bother.
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 13, 2002 11:27:52 GMT -5
^^^I wasn't sure if you were joking or what the message was on the three posted questions, so I took a chance and imparted a fact for general information purposes.
I didn't see the Mind Meld interview, but it's interesting that both he and Nimoy use the Ebay situation as an excuse for not signing autographs. When Shatner originally made his decision not to sign autographs on request, Ebay didn't exist yet. Then, it was a combination of "not playing favorites" and "he would develop writer's cramp if he signed everyone's photos and books." I've never met Nimoy, but I believe that he's used both of these excuses as well at conventions.
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Post by UltimateTrekker on Feb 13, 2002 11:39:10 GMT -5
I don't think they used Ebay specificailly, but talked about people selling them in general.
At first, no one would DARE sell and cherished autograph, but these days, people who've got their own, just go to get a sellable copy.
They're not signing for others to make money, they were TRYING to support fans (There's a story much like that in with Stewart refused to sign someone's Captain's Table book at a signing after A Christmas Carol because people would get in line for the signing without even seeing his play, just to get a Trek autograph.)
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 13, 2002 11:48:10 GMT -5
^^^Stewart's situation is completely valid and just shows what a classy guy he is. He didn't want to cheat the audience that paid good money to see him. And I strongly agree with the tastelessness of someone selling an autograph just to stuff his pockets. Most of the big name stars don't personalize their autographs, which is probably why they're so marketable. I've rarely had a problem getting an autograph from one of the "second string" Trek actors at a convention, which reinforces the "people who pay good money to see the star should take precedence over gatecrashers" rule that Stewart correctly enforced.
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Post by UltimateTrekker on Feb 13, 2002 14:52:42 GMT -5
In this story the kid HAD been at his show but brought a ST book. AND, Stewart did end up signing it for him, but wanted to make his point.
I highly agree with him. It makes me sad in a way. I bought some Spinal Tap figures and contemplated NOT taking them out of their packages in case I wished to resell them someday, but then I realised that I BOUGHT them not to SELL them, but to HAVE them.
If all collecters were like that, we'd be a heck of a lot better off I think. (As fans)
(Not that I won't BUY stuff off E-bay. If they don't want their "collectables" I sure do. Maybe I'm just making things worse by contributing, but if people out there watch Jerry Springer with a clear consious....)
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Post by StolenThunder on Feb 13, 2002 14:56:12 GMT -5
but if people out there watch Jerry Springer with a clear consious.... JERR-Y, JERR-Y, JERR-Y! Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 14, 2002 1:51:42 GMT -5
ST! I'm surprised at you for watching trashy shows like the Springer Baitfest! What would your parents say? Besides, I thought young people like you watched Ricki Lake. I agree with both you and Patrick Stewart, UT. Either you treasure collectibles or you don't. If you don't, stop turning them into hockables and give them to someone who can appreciate them as mementos or feel-good items of personal value. Obviously the kid only went to the show because Stewart was on TNG, not to see him perform as Scrooge or as a one-man performer. More fool he!I'm not an E-bay bidder, but I know a few people who are. I tell them, "If you can afford to indulge in that kind of hobby, more power to ya! I have more important things to spend my money on, like groceries and utility bills."
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Post by UltimateTrekker on Feb 14, 2002 8:29:41 GMT -5
I purchased something from E-bay once. A pasta maker. And (odd as it is) for Valantine's Day, Ezri bought me and autographed pic of Bakula in his Archer costume!! I can't believe that someone would either get that rarity just to sell it, or that someone KNEW Bakula personally and got the sig, then sold it behind his back. I would understand if his wife just died and he needed the money, but most likely the guy just is out to make some cash... of course, call me a Springer watcher now. "If you're not part of the solution, get out of the kitchen!" (That's how it goes right? )
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 14, 2002 10:50:39 GMT -5
^^^I think that was a lovely gesture on Ezri's part to buy the photo, but the fact that it wasn't personally autographed proves my earlier point. Why he sold it is only secondary to the fact that it was in a sellable state to begin with IMHO.
As for the Springer line, you're mixing metaphors again, UT. That's OK. It looks good on you. In the spirit of Voltaire, I'll just say "I may disagree with your afternoon TV viewing habits, but I'll defend to the death your right to click your remote to any show that you want to watch."
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Post by StolenThunder on Feb 14, 2002 13:41:40 GMT -5
ST! I'm surprised at you for watching trashy shows like the Springer Baitfest! What would your parents say? Besides, I thought young people like you watched Ricki Lake. Hmm, I don't actually watch Springer, but everyone knows about it here... Still, if you're off sick, chat-shows are always the thing to watch... JERR-Y, JERR-Y, JERR-Y!
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Post by Elric3960 on Feb 15, 2002 2:46:06 GMT -5
Consider it our way of paying you lot back for inflicting Sir David Frost on us all those years!
*Elric says in a nasally voice "Super! Super!"*
LOL
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